Interview med Wenger

Ved den seneste NNU-konference var vi så heldige at have besøg af Etienne Wenger. Udover at han gennemførte et formidabelt oplæg med stor aktivitet blandet deltagerne, så fik Roland Hachmann og Peter Holmboe lejlighed til at tale med ham under lidt mere nære rammer.

Wenger er formentligt mest kendt for sit arbejde med og om “Situated learning” sammen med Jean Lave og hans senere teorier om “Communities of Practice”. Samtalen med Wenger to afsæt i dette felt, men adresserede også direkte emner fra den afholde keynote, så hvis du vil genhøre pointer eller hvis du slet ikke var med og blot er interesseret, så kan du lytte med her:

Spørgsmål 1 – How would you describe your professional identity and your current work?

Spørgsmål 2 – How does your theory correspond to practice and practitioners?

Spørgsmål 3 – Today you presented the concept of Knowledgeability as the next step in developing your theory. Could you elaborate a little bit on that concept?

Spørgsmål 4 – Is Knowledgeability a way of combining the epistemological and ontological aspects of knowledge, as not only knowing in a how and that, but also knowing of as eg. Experiences of being in the world?

Spørgsmål 5 – Your concept is also disrupting the way we think school, wouldn’t you say? What are your thoughts on that?

Spørgsmål 6 – Would that mean the subjects taught in school would have to find a way to be more a whole and to intertwine more in each other, instead of being separated ways of teaching students in different disciplines?

Spørgsmål 7 – Many teachers would argue, that working with math both requires and provide competences needed in the world, and that you need some of this basic knowledge to engage in the world. What is your view on that?

Spørgsmål 8 – Does that mean you agree on, that in early years of school, primary and secondary, we need to know the basics of how and where to acquire knowledge and what it means to learn, more than e.g. focusing on specific and narrow subject-content?

Spørgsmål 9 – Does this idea of becoming a master in a specific area as an experience that students can use in other learning situations correspond to your thoughts on trajectories of learning? And do you see a trajectory as one or multiple paths through the learning landscape?

Spørgsmål 10 – In your talk you said, that one of the most important things in the 21st century for us as humans would be the ability to create and shape identity in the process of learning, and we should be more focused on that in school instead of just teaching the curriculum. Would you elaborate a little on that?

Spørgsmål 11 – Does you’re the theory see the learner with multiple identities, or do you have the idea of a solid core identity from where you take on roles and contemporary identities?

Spørgsmål 12 – So, knowledgeability is fluent? And dependent on the identity you develop?

Etienne og hans hustru Beverly har for ganske nyligt publiceret en bog med titlen “Learning to make a difference – Value creation in social learning spaces”.

Den kan du kan læse mere her: https://wenger-trayner.com/learning-to-make-a-difference/